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Van Snyder's avatar

Excellent summary. Robert didn't have the space to point out that Michael Shellenberger, one of the ARC cofounders, wrote about the relationship between energy (not just electricity) and poverty in "Apocalypse Never: Why Environmentalism Hurts Us All."

Something that neither Robert nor Michael noted is that prosperity reduces fertility, so if you're worried about overpopulation, you should be gung-ho for energy. Last year, Japan had twice as many deaths as births. For the first time in its history, it's accepting legal permanent resident immigrants, mostly from China and Korea, on one condition: They must become farmers. European fertiliuty, including European Russia, is below replacement. But for immigration the United States would be below replacement.

Beyond land-use conflicts, there are inescapable physical reasons that the world's electrical system cannot run on renewables alone. In https://tupa.gtk.fi/raportti/arkisto/42_2021.pdf, Simon Michaux shows that the ell-electric all-renewable program promoted by the IEA would require five times more copper, ten times more nickel, 26 times more cobalt, ... than are known to exist in forms that can be exploited (and my estimates are more pessimistic). In the United States alone, the cost for batteries to provide firm power, assuming 100% charge-discharge efficiency, and not counting installation, would be more than four times total GDP every year. Pumped-storage would require 8,200 of Australia's Snowy 2.0 projects; we currently have forty. Analysis of data from the Shuttle Radar Topography Mission shows that, statistically, Kansas is indeed as flat as a pancake. Towing rocks up mountains or abandoned mine shafts would require about 15 million devices. "Green Hydrogen" has end-to-end efficiency below 22%, and hydrogen poses intractable storage and safety problems (synthetic fuels make more sense).... If we must abandon coal and natural gas (and that's a big IF) then nuclear power is the only alternative.

Read a preprint of my new book "Where Will We Get Our Energy?" at http://vandyke.mynetgear.com/Whence-Energy.html

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Pat Robinson's avatar

“There is no question, however, that once a country gains wealth it cannot sustain it without electricity. When the electricity disappears, the wealth goes with it.”

See; Germany

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