"Gas has many positive attributes, but it can only be delivered just-in-time". Actuallly NatGas can be stored to avoid just in time delivery to the power plants. There are several methods of storage in use nowadays such as depleted salt mines,
The essential point that must be embraced politically is that net zero is not a reasonable, let alone achievable, ambition for global climate policy.
In fact, we are at a point that where the entire UN process would more productively focus on how to take out CO2 from the atmosphere at scale that the economically and politically impossible goal of net zero.
Conservative politicians must lead the Western democracies to reject net zero.
The only interesting development at the conference were the nuclear pledges by 22 countries. Nuclear is going to be a massive part of future energy grids of almost all countries.
“Coal has dominated the electric sector since the days of Edison despite its many downsides, including high CO2 emissions, air pollution, and significant amounts of solid waste.”
Air pollution and solid waste are objectively downsides. CO2 emissions are not. You should not buy into the false panic that rising CO2 emissions are somehow “bad” for “the planet”. CO2 levels have historically been much higher than they are now, and the available evidence points to extreme cold - associated with CO2 levels below a certain ppm concentration - as being associated with mass death, while higher CO2 concentrations are associated with flourishing life.
John Kerry is as successful at telling the truth in the area of energy production and consumption as he was as a candidate for the US Presidency. He is a bony, empty suit masquerading as an energy, farm production, and dietary expert. What a clod of dirt is that man on the soles of a peasant's feet.
I'm confused. The Wall Street Journal reported this morning that "CPO28 Nations Agree for First Time to Transition Away from Fossil Fuels" with aim of net-zero greenhouse emissions by 2050. Perhaps that happened after press time of this otherwise very interesting article on coal (?)
Not much to add to this excellent article. Only the following : When politicians and activists impact and control the energy infrastructure, Western countries are heading for a tailspin and disaster of enormous proportions. The amount of hypocrisy, scientific and historical ignorance is mind boggling. Go massively nuclear. Now.
I was a proponent of coal to gas switching across the board; this article was enlightening to the fact that over investing in gas and trying to eliminate coal has its own unique set of risks.
All those solar panels (and windmills) will end up in landfill in 20 years too. Has anyone seriously investigated the environmental damage to soil and underground water bodies from that? Energy-dilute parasites which take enormous amounts of hydrocarbons and metals to produce are then just chucked away. What a crappy trade-off. Green carpet-baggers get better pots to piss in is all, to quote the film "Wall Street".
Tim, I think you mean "worse" than that? The whole of the OECD, representing 14% of the global population, is going to bankrupt itself if it truly means what it is saying in Dubai, these days! My poor children and grandchildren!
"the waste produced by coal plants is actually more radioactive than that generated by their nuclear counterparts. In fact, the fly ash emitted by a power plant—a by-product from burning coal for electricity—carries into the surrounding environment 100 times more radiation than a nuclear power plant producing the same amount of energy.
At issue is coal's content of uranium and thorium, both radioactive elements. They occur in such trace amounts in natural, or "whole," coal that they aren't a problem. But when coal is burned into fly ash, uranium and thorium are concentrated at up to 10 times their original levels."
Radiation anywhere near those levels is harmless, and only of concern to those obligated to comply with the absurd regulations. What is interesting, is that the uranium and thorium are concentrated, typically containing more energy than was released from burning the coal. I'd like to see that energy harnessed in nuclear plants on site, economically producing power while incidentally cleaning up the mountains of coal ash. Thorium is not a problem; it isn't even water soluble, but we absolutely want to recover any heavy metals, arsenic, etc., before they are inevitably washed away, and (efficient) nuclear can help with that.
"Gas has many positive attributes, but it can only be delivered just-in-time". Actuallly NatGas can be stored to avoid just in time delivery to the power plants. There are several methods of storage in use nowadays such as depleted salt mines,
"the hydrocarbon looming over COP28 was coal". Please, coal is not a hydrocarbon.
The essential point that must be embraced politically is that net zero is not a reasonable, let alone achievable, ambition for global climate policy.
In fact, we are at a point that where the entire UN process would more productively focus on how to take out CO2 from the atmosphere at scale that the economically and politically impossible goal of net zero.
Conservative politicians must lead the Western democracies to reject net zero.
Robert, you are a gem. Thank you so much for your tireless writing and advocacy. If only I possessed your energy and resolve.
A very Happy Christmas to you and yours.
Gary.
I predict Africa will also turn to coal and usage will double before it starts to fall in the 2nd half of the century.
The only interesting development at the conference were the nuclear pledges by 22 countries. Nuclear is going to be a massive part of future energy grids of almost all countries.
“Coal has dominated the electric sector since the days of Edison despite its many downsides, including high CO2 emissions, air pollution, and significant amounts of solid waste.”
Air pollution and solid waste are objectively downsides. CO2 emissions are not. You should not buy into the false panic that rising CO2 emissions are somehow “bad” for “the planet”. CO2 levels have historically been much higher than they are now, and the available evidence points to extreme cold - associated with CO2 levels below a certain ppm concentration - as being associated with mass death, while higher CO2 concentrations are associated with flourishing life.
John Kerry is as successful at telling the truth in the area of energy production and consumption as he was as a candidate for the US Presidency. He is a bony, empty suit masquerading as an energy, farm production, and dietary expert. What a clod of dirt is that man on the soles of a peasant's feet.
I'm confused. The Wall Street Journal reported this morning that "CPO28 Nations Agree for First Time to Transition Away from Fossil Fuels" with aim of net-zero greenhouse emissions by 2050. Perhaps that happened after press time of this otherwise very interesting article on coal (?)
Not much to add to this excellent article. Only the following : When politicians and activists impact and control the energy infrastructure, Western countries are heading for a tailspin and disaster of enormous proportions. The amount of hypocrisy, scientific and historical ignorance is mind boggling. Go massively nuclear. Now.
I was a proponent of coal to gas switching across the board; this article was enlightening to the fact that over investing in gas and trying to eliminate coal has its own unique set of risks.
John Kerry said, “There shouldn't be any more coal-fired power plants permitted anywhere in the world.”
It's hard to even express how asinine that statement is by John Kerry.
The following definition is from Google AI.
"'Asinine' means a failure to use normal rationality or perception. It is used to describe someone or something that is very foolish."
Some synonyms for the word "asinine" include:
Foolish, Silly, Simple, Fatuous, Stupid, Idiotic, Imbecilic, Moronic, Senseless.
I don't normally want or try to be so unkind in my assessment of opinions or statements, however Mr. John Kerry's statement above is one for the ages.
I'm going to stop here before I say what I really think about John Kerry or his ideology.
All those solar panels (and windmills) will end up in landfill in 20 years too. Has anyone seriously investigated the environmental damage to soil and underground water bodies from that? Energy-dilute parasites which take enormous amounts of hydrocarbons and metals to produce are then just chucked away. What a crappy trade-off. Green carpet-baggers get better pots to piss in is all, to quote the film "Wall Street".
The Western democracies wishful lurch to ‘green’ energy creates another unintended consequence. It doesn’t get much better than that
Tim, I think you mean "worse" than that? The whole of the OECD, representing 14% of the global population, is going to bankrupt itself if it truly means what it is saying in Dubai, these days! My poor children and grandchildren!
Coal plants emit radioactive waste.
"the waste produced by coal plants is actually more radioactive than that generated by their nuclear counterparts. In fact, the fly ash emitted by a power plant—a by-product from burning coal for electricity—carries into the surrounding environment 100 times more radiation than a nuclear power plant producing the same amount of energy.
At issue is coal's content of uranium and thorium, both radioactive elements. They occur in such trace amounts in natural, or "whole," coal that they aren't a problem. But when coal is burned into fly ash, uranium and thorium are concentrated at up to 10 times their original levels."
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/
Radiation anywhere near those levels is harmless, and only of concern to those obligated to comply with the absurd regulations. What is interesting, is that the uranium and thorium are concentrated, typically containing more energy than was released from burning the coal. I'd like to see that energy harnessed in nuclear plants on site, economically producing power while incidentally cleaning up the mountains of coal ash. Thorium is not a problem; it isn't even water soluble, but we absolutely want to recover any heavy metals, arsenic, etc., before they are inevitably washed away, and (efficient) nuclear can help with that.
10 times almost nothing is still almost nothing.
Did you even READ the article? No?
Indonesia government wants to expand electric power without investing in power plants. They want investors to build them and sell electricity by PPAs.
Indonesia's regulator, Bapeten, has promised us "efficiency" in their work.