Shouldn’t be a division - strategic error not to spin off ab ovo. Sure missing synergies etc but the market hates the new weighed down by the old, even if the old makes sense and the new doesn’t.
Robert: Appreciate the continued truth about EVs. Suugest you take a close look at the reason Ford's Blue Oval City plant under construction in Tennessee. Why would the company invest in that $X-billion plant when loosing so much money per EV? Perhaps a move of EV production to a lesser expensive state? Or another reason?
Might be time for the car companies to stop bending over and taking it. They should have stood up decades ago and told the government to pack salt, but here they are hemorrhaging billions because they can't locate their cojones with both hands.
Toyota will be flourishing as they have a large hybrid line up & to my knowledge are the only sizeable Manufacturer not to blow their brains out with EV’s.
If they can not keep the power up for homes, businesses, etc., how do they plan for the electric cars. With all the electronics out there and new construction being built do you really think our power will keep up..(absolutely not)..
Solar panels are also interfering with the climate change. The way I look at it: if the sun rays help expand power, the panels can reflex back too.
The next clash we're going to see is between tech bros and the green energy lobby. You think the struggling grid is having issues now? Wait until those EVs load up the grid with data centers and artificial intelligence too. Those are absolute power hogs and will likely require the companies to build out their own on-site generation. The future will get interesting.
Grids all over the world incapable of even a 1/3 adoption to EV’s. Sales have fallen as more people have been exposed to all the negatives/lies whether it be “ Zero emission, insufficient & unreliable charging network, Grid instability, 70% higher carbon manufacturing footprint, 90% of rare earth elements in China & price.
I don't think solar panels reflect much sunlight. They heat up under sunlight, but so does everything else. If we're going to start counting joules from everything the sun warms to above ambient temperature, we're going to need a bigger boat.
Suspect that Edsel is a photo of a restored sample. But the idea and the rest of the article (sans Alma) make the point.
I drive a 2016 F150 Lariat. Even when I bought it, I thought the price ridiculous. The only reason I did...I had a very good trade in on a 2011, 'sorta' pickup type vehicle, that knocked the price down. I'm gonna hang on to this this truck for as long as I can.
On a recent trip to a Ford Dealer, I saw a "Lightening"...then I saw the sticker price. I can understand why Ford lost $65K on each one sold. What a useless pile of metal and other materials.
It seems that the best bet now is to greatly improve the billions of venerable ICEs. We propose the "diesoline" technology, which is a hybrid of current mainstream 2-cycle, 4-cycle and diesel, gasoline engine types. Current automobiles need only 2, 3 or 4 cylinders (instead of 4, v6 or v8), and heavy trucks need no aftertreatments (costing industry/economy $billions) - and save fuel by 1/3 or greater and 3 times driving power (torque).
I love her music. It is beautiful. Soothing.
Edsel, the coolest car that never sold.
You have good reason to be proud! She is a good singer.
Shouldn’t be a division - strategic error not to spin off ab ovo. Sure missing synergies etc but the market hates the new weighed down by the old, even if the old makes sense and the new doesn’t.
"Critically Endangered Whales"
https://voza0db.substack.com/p/morons-just-dont-get-it-c28
As if that matters.
Thanks, but where did you get the $65K loss figure? CNN reported a loss of $132K. Is the difference related to whether hybrids are included in sales?
Ford's website promotes EVs:
"Creating exciting new EV’s that drivers really want. But just don’t know it yet."
That last line says it all. They think they know what we want - just like the government. Think again. LOL
It's the operating loss of $1.32 billion on its Model e business divided by the 20,223 EVs sold during the quarter!
Robert: Appreciate the continued truth about EVs. Suugest you take a close look at the reason Ford's Blue Oval City plant under construction in Tennessee. Why would the company invest in that $X-billion plant when loosing so much money per EV? Perhaps a move of EV production to a lesser expensive state? Or another reason?
I use to live in Oakville Ontario & production at the EV Plant has been delayed until 2027. It was announced either last month or the month before…..
Might be time for the car companies to stop bending over and taking it. They should have stood up decades ago and told the government to pack salt, but here they are hemorrhaging billions because they can't locate their cojones with both hands.
Toyota will be flourishing as they have a large hybrid line up & to my knowledge are the only sizeable Manufacturer not to blow their brains out with EV’s.
If they can not keep the power up for homes, businesses, etc., how do they plan for the electric cars. With all the electronics out there and new construction being built do you really think our power will keep up..(absolutely not)..
Solar panels are also interfering with the climate change. The way I look at it: if the sun rays help expand power, the panels can reflex back too.
The next clash we're going to see is between tech bros and the green energy lobby. You think the struggling grid is having issues now? Wait until those EVs load up the grid with data centers and artificial intelligence too. Those are absolute power hogs and will likely require the companies to build out their own on-site generation. The future will get interesting.
Grids all over the world incapable of even a 1/3 adoption to EV’s. Sales have fallen as more people have been exposed to all the negatives/lies whether it be “ Zero emission, insufficient & unreliable charging network, Grid instability, 70% higher carbon manufacturing footprint, 90% of rare earth elements in China & price.
I don't think solar panels reflect much sunlight. They heat up under sunlight, but so does everything else. If we're going to start counting joules from everything the sun warms to above ambient temperature, we're going to need a bigger boat.
Suspect that Edsel is a photo of a restored sample. But the idea and the rest of the article (sans Alma) make the point.
I drive a 2016 F150 Lariat. Even when I bought it, I thought the price ridiculous. The only reason I did...I had a very good trade in on a 2011, 'sorta' pickup type vehicle, that knocked the price down. I'm gonna hang on to this this truck for as long as I can.
On a recent trip to a Ford Dealer, I saw a "Lightening"...then I saw the sticker price. I can understand why Ford lost $65K on each one sold. What a useless pile of metal and other materials.
Re: Alma - thanks for sharing a lovely song rendered by a lovely lady.
Ford stockholders need not panic. Biden will bail out the automakers.
Making products consumers want at prices consumers are willing to pay is not part of the government's game plan.
Brings to mind the Soviet Union's 5-year plans. Those plans produced the economic powerhouse that is Russia today, with a GDP ~1/12 of the U.S. GDP.
With our government's active direction, with the government using carrots and sticks, we can soon match Russia!
sorry the shareholders of GM got screwed when it went Bankrupt. They gave the equity to the UAW
Unfortunately, when “Biden bails out the automakers”, that means you and I, the taxpayers, are bailing them out.
Personally I'm reminded of the 60's when, in response to the oil crisis, the elites pushed econoboxes on everyone but themselves.
It seems that the best bet now is to greatly improve the billions of venerable ICEs. We propose the "diesoline" technology, which is a hybrid of current mainstream 2-cycle, 4-cycle and diesel, gasoline engine types. Current automobiles need only 2, 3 or 4 cylinders (instead of 4, v6 or v8), and heavy trucks need no aftertreatments (costing industry/economy $billions) - and save fuel by 1/3 or greater and 3 times driving power (torque).
Appreciate the tracking of loss-per-EV over time. Great metric to monitor.
Good analogy. The Edsel was known as Project E before its name was decided by a fake contest.
Poet Marianne Means submitted the name "Utopian Turtletop" in the fake contest, which would probably suit the EV as well.
I used to think that I was cool
Running around on electric fuel
Until I saw what I was doing
Was driving down the road ruin