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Douglas Jones's avatar

Robert,

Another informative and sobering post which exposes corporate greenwashing. The digital foundries (data centres) planned by Google and the fuller uptake of AI is going to push Google’s electricity consumption onto a much steeper upward trajectory. That electricity has to come from somewhere and replaceable energy harvesting machines (wind and solar) are simply not going to be able to provide it. It is deceptive and a misnomer for anyone to refer to “clean” or “green” electricity. All sources of electricity have a material footprint and it just so happens that wind and solar have veryyyyy large material footprints. I believe it will help us to have a better informed and more honest debate about the future of power grids if we required full Life Cycle Analyses (LCAs) of all forms of electricity generation using the International Standards Organization’s (ILO’s) Guidelines for LCAs. Such LCAs would make the material footprints, the full environmental and social impacts of each form of electricity generation much more transparent and much less liable for disingenuous language such as “clean”, “green” and “renewable”.

A very interesting lecture on the impact of digital foundries (data centres) can be accessed by typing iPres 2022 Keynote Speaker: Steven Gonzalez Monserrate. At the time Monserrate was doing research into the full impact of digital foundries (data centres).

Keep up the good work.

Douglas Jones,

retired electrical engineer.

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Francis Turner's avatar

The developed world really ought to be building way more nukes than it is. If google were serious about netzero it would be lobbying everywhere to have new nukes built. But it hasn't because most of it's netzero related stuff is virtue signalling.

Also worth noting that solar seems to have some issues scaling up as fast as some predict - https://davidturver.substack.com/p/will-silver-curb-growth-of-solar-power-pv

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