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Wish the government would stop ev and hybrid incentives and let the cars complete on the free market.

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😂 Seriously? You’re kidding right? So many words about the EV market “losing steam” without any mention of the impact that Musk has on the market with his daily X rants that very effectively shoot Tesla in the foot. The Fact is….. CA non-Tesla EV sales were up 45% in Q2, while Teslas were way down. CA leads the US and EVs continue to be hot. In spite of Musk. To be fair, you’re not the only industry writer who routinely ignores the elephant in the room. Nevertheless, it’s still weak. And weird to ignore the fundamental inputs driving the market.

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After years of rapid expansion, electric vehicles sales growth in California trended down in the middle of last year and now has turned negative: 101,443 all-electric cars were registered in the state in 2024's second quarter, down from 102,730 in the second quarter of 2023, a drop of 1.2%.Jul 18, 2024. (This is an AI answer to "California EV sales." It isn't working)

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Quick question: why respond/debate a comment that you clear didn’t read and/or don’t understand?

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They are rapidly running out of first adopters.

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This guy Bryce is a joke. He will be roadkill on the way to a better planet. No one with half a brain would take his paid commentary seriously. Ford is all in and not turning back.

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EV's are never going to be the answer. Bryce has decades of energy research which trumps your experience in energy working for who? All of your assumptions are based on the world view of people who don't understand energy. Bryce is pro-nuclear. That is the solution. Are you against that too?

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Saw this coming a mile away. The US infrastructure is not ready to support EV vehicles. Lithium batteries do not perform well in cold weather. High prices do not help.

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More than one in four new vehicles sold in CA are EV. Over a million EVs on our roads today. And our grid is stronger than ever. Because of the massive growth and development of green energy. ….But data and facts are elusive for the big oil bots.

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EV's are a false promise anyway. All 'renewables' are, which by the way are not renewable at all, they are "rebuildables" - assuming the fossil fuel economy is still generating profits, which is not going to be the case forever, either, they are finite and the profit margins are nowhere near what they were when we built this civilization. Renewables are going to solve nothing about us for us, our doomed model of being - as "a solution" they've been a fiction, an appealing lie, since day one as anyone who takes a sober look at the full physics behind it all knows. Rather, we are simply going to run our course and go away, this version of us, as they all do eventually. Hopefully not all versions of us, but i suppose there is potential for that this time around. This time the civilization swirling the drain is global.

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I ask them, "Is Lithium renewable?"

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No kidding. The math underwriting this stuff is not difficult. We simply prefer not to do it. We want to believe in magic instead. This is the desire of children, an infantilized culture.

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Well, on paper ….. however …. Supported by President Biden's Inflation Reduction Act, the Domestic Manufacturing Conversion Grants for electrified vehicles program, provided a cost-shared grants for domestic production of efficient hybrid, plug-in electric hybrid, plug-in electric drive, and hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles to Ford Motorcars for $9.2 Billion

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So, your contention is that Ford Executives are lying to investors and shareholders. I'm going to go out on a limb and posit that you really don't have the first clue as to the scope or scale of your ignorance.

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Stop acting like an IDIOT and do the research … How about GOOGLE for the simple solution. Are you really this ignorant???

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Ahhh ... so you're stuck on demonstrating "Denial Ain't Just a River in Egypt"!!!

Yep, thanks for confirming my earlier assessment that you really don't have the first clue as to the scope or scale of your ignorance.

PS - Love that comment about Googly, that was a laugh!!!

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On my second F-150. Wouldn’t drive an EV if it were given to me free of charge. Sorry, not going to support full employment for nine-year old lithium miners in the Central African Republic.

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An EV Wouldn't be much good if it was "free of charge"🤣

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Never, ever, ever apologize for speaking (or posting) the truth ... if someone's feelings are hurt by a simple factual statement, that's their problem, not anyone else's.

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THE ONLY WIND POWER THAT IS EFFICIENT IS THAT GOOD OLD FASHIONED WINDMILL LIKE WE USE TO USE.

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I sense a bailout request coming

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Not to belabor the point but lets not segue into hybrid vehicles or what motor fuel we should be using, my comment was about an EV plain and simple. I own a Tesla and if I did not have a gas car also the Tesla would be long gone. Why? Because there are NO 500+ mile batteries or enough reliable charging infrastructure or enough hours in the day to wait to charge at a public charger. In its current form and EV is not practical for an everyday vehicle, unless your world is 100 mile radius from your home charger, it simply is NOT unless you are one of the most patient souls on earth. But don't rely on my word, just look at the resale market to prove my point. EV's litter the resale market at 70% or less of value after one year. Sales of EV are hitting the skids too, yes even Tesla. Rental car agencies have flooded the markets with these unwanted vehicles as only a handful or car renters request them. Most people cannot talk intelligently about an EV and all the associated "issues" until they actually own one. Once you have had one for a while then come and comment. For now I am going to maintain my comment that EV's Suck, yet for a few chosen situations.

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I'm not ashamed of my schadenfreude. I hope all EV manufacturers lose their proverbial shirt.

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Ditto! And we ask that they please stop subsidizing and giving tax credits of immense proportions to the wind developers with our hard earned tax dollars and mounting debt. These giant 1,000+ foot towers with 250' long blades where the Vineyard Wind has the first wind project that produced probably enough MW of electricity to be considered commercial and probably succeeded in honoring its PPA for about an hour until the entire POO, went into a debris field covering an area the size of Boston.

Atlantic Shores is beginning its sonar survey along the coast of NJ in the first quarter of 2025. So, 200 turbines bigger and better than Vineyard Wind! The CEO of Atlantic Shores, when asked about hurricanes, wake events and wind currents stated "good question, and I have to say, we'll be on a learning curvee"! I think he just saw the longest one in MA. Will his project off the Jersey Shore be back on the drawing board? No way!

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Sorry? Nope. The customer told these morons what they wanted and ta-da.

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Maybe it's time for technocracy to crawl back into the hole it oozed out of.

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Really dumb interview on PBS with Edmunds journalists https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-major-car-manufacturers-are-slowing-production-of-electric-vehicles. “Not everyone is feeling comfortable, perhaps fixing (EV car) batteries “. How about 800 fu$#-%ing volts ⚡️https://www.engineering.com/high-voltage-vehicles-why-800-volt-evs-are-on-the-rise/

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